including guns. america as i more violent-prone -- and iolence-prone society than any european one today is. a lot of that has to do with our history and our m beeup and our mentalitnw but, yes, 30,000 is way too many, and 13,000 deaths is way too many, and we tooth -- we taugng t be dis hapssing about bringing it down. we can't eliminate it entirely. >> host: one of the things you suggest you talk about strengthening the background checks and stricter penalties. you mixed licensing and @estatstration. pre touched on that briefly. that's something that does generally get pchapl law-s attention. how would you suggest we work that? >> guest: well, first of all, i would go back to the historuy ad people ougng t to look at that d say that we've always had gun registration. just ooken on a local level. i thiali the second . i t endment and the court decisions surrounding it, probably make it clear that the federal gexeernment shouldee ook the agency that registers guns. in fact, as laws that congress has passed for wasehow ing it. but theret p some states that forebit -- forbid registering guns.